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Feelings toward Navy: Swift Anyone ever notice how the majority of the people bitching about tradition and the new uniforms are the one's who never have to wear the stuff? Current utilities are shit and they make people look like janitors. The summer whites are shit because they get diry too quick. Chiefs and O's are so stupid and I'm glad I didn't re-enlist. I hate the people who say something like why do we have to wear cami's, we're not trying to blend in with the boat or water. It's because they are comfortable you assholes, you wear them right out of the dryer and when they get dirty you can't see the stains like on our shitty utilities. Some people are so stupid to not realize this and all they do instead is yap about tradition,well fuck that shit.
Thursday, 27 November 2008 - 15:53:20 |
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Feelings toward Navy: would have rather shot myself in the left testicle Got out after my 6. This is my salute to the folks I worked with in RX/RM who decided 6 years was to long, and threw the deuce on the way down the brow, pier, and even shore power cables.
Keep the hate
CVN 75 Tuesday, 25 November 2008 - 03:10:36 |
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Feelings toward Navy: Fuck IT Hey why not, it will help us loose this war faster. Then maybe everybody can come home for awhile before we go after Iran or Korea next. Then we can start fucking up everything over there too.
Chucky-V Monday, 24 November 2008 - 09:29:32 |
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Feelings toward Navy: fuck shit NukePitbull, the army is now not allowing iraqi interpreters helping US forces to wear masks , because its "unprofessional".
Now Iraqis will be alot less likel to help us now that their identity will be known.
USS SHIT-CE Friday, 21 November 2008 - 23:48:31 |
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Feelings toward Navy: Fuck It! I was not aware that the USN banned the writing on ordinance. That was one of the most fun times I had in the Navy. When we started bombing Afghanistan after 9/11 EVERY SINGLE bomb we saw in the hanger bay had some shit written on it. Like Diablo said, wouldn't it be more offensive if they woke up to a bomb in their front yard? Fuck the Navy and all of their political bullshit! I would like to see that clip that Navy H8R posted, but they removed it. What was it about?
Chucky-V Friday, 21 November 2008 - 16:47:08 |
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Feelings toward Navy: Pure Hate That is like the ban on writing messages on bombs. I remember when they announced the policy. Seriously, are we worried about offending people who somehow can read a poorly written english message on the side of an unexploded bomb in their front yard??? I think the actual act of dropping ordinance on them would be more offensive to the people of Iraq. Why the fuck are we still wasting time, money, and lives in the middle east? Then again, considering how much of that I saw in the Navy...its ain't ending anytime soon...
CVN 71 The Big Joke Wednesday, 19 November 2008 - 09:43:22 |
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Feelings toward Navy: I do not miss it Hmm, that was a pretty interesting story posted by navy h8ter. Hell, if dep recruits don't believe what is said on this website than maybe they should take a look at that msnbc news link. Lets see than how they feel about joining.
The finally retired kitty hawk Tuesday, 18 November 2008 - 00:25:48 |
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Feelings toward Navy: FUCK IT Weve all known how overboard the navy goes at times to seem "professional" to the public, but check this out, the army has done a notch higher: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27758855/
wow..and that could kill people
the military brass , navy army or USAF is all just mesed up in its thinking i am starting to think
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Feelings toward Navy: Godfuck the Navy One of the things that bothers me about the Navy is how different commands are when it comes to non-judicial punishment. At my first command, a squadron I went to mast for buying alcohol for a minor. I got 60 days restriction half months pay times two with no extra duty and reduction in rate. My friend at the same command, same rank as me, got a DUI a month later. And you know what happened to him? Nothing. Our skipper said, "We'll let the civilian court take care of it." Isn't that bizarre? I guess in the mind of our skipper driving drunk was petty offense as compared to my high crime of buying a bottle of whisky for a twenty year old who drank responsibly in his own room and got caught because of shitty luck.
You'll see this kind of bullshit everywhere in the Navy; skippers basically playing god and meting out punishment based on how they feel that day because, unlike the civilian justice system, they know you can't really defend yourself. It really is a joke. And oh yes FTN. I got my honorable discharge and now I'm free, free at last thank God Almighty.
fuckin prowlers Sunday, 16 November 2008 - 17:02:21 |
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Feelings toward Navy: Fleeting Memory I've been out for almost 5 years now. I can't articulate how happy I am to be a civilain again. My servitude lasted 8 years. I have friends who retired as e6s and can't pay half of their bills with their retirement. The only reason I stayed in for 8 was debt accumulation. Good luck to all who are slaving away for the navy machine. Don't be pressured into re-enlisting even though the economy is bad right now. Save your money and you will survive until a good job comes along. Go to or back to college and take advantage of the GI Bill you paid for. Stay in touch with the people who were good to you in the navy and forget the ones who were not. This a simple formula for success.
EOD Thursday, 13 November 2008 - 13:58:39 |
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Feelings toward Navy: Waste of time I first came to this site several years ago, because the Navy recruiter was calling my kids, trying to get them to enlist. I let them read this site, along with others, and convinced them not to join. I have since made it my mission to convince as many others as I could to avoid the Navy like the plague.
I got out after 6 years, and I worked for a couple of years until I decided to go to school. It took me 2 more years of going to college at night to get an education. I got a job that I have been working at for 10 years. I get 6 weeks of vacation a year, medical, retirement, and dental. This year I will make $82K. I can retire at 42% this year, if I want. I am going to wait 10 more years and retire at 75%. I will only be 50. If I had not joined the Navy, I could retire this year at 70%.
My son finished college 2 years ago, and he has been in the same field as I am (not the same employer) for the last 2 years. He makes $45K a year.
As a comparison, I make more than a Lt Commander, and nearly as much as a Commander with 20 years' service. My son makes as much as a Lt with 2 years, or as much as a Chief with 12.
My time in the Navy was a waste of not just the 6 years I spent in, but the time it took me afterwards to afford to go to school, because I got married while I was in, so I had to go to school while supporting them.
Kids- whatever you do, stay away from the military- it is a waste of years of your life that you will never get back.
Tuesday, 11 November 2008 - 14:11:28 |
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Feelings toward Navy: Pure Hate Preach brother. Got to love the rules that are only followed half the time. I did 5 of six years on a carrier away from my parent division. I was working RXDC the entire time for a EN chief that I will never be able to do enough to pay back all the good he did for me. Word I guess got around to M-Div(my parent division) that RXDC got really good at "fixing" problems and I was the reason. Never mind that I worked for a great chief that covered our asses and he never expected the unobtainable, no I just was some super shaddy hero that could fix all of M-div's problems. I never wanted to have anything to do with M-div ever again but they ended up making noise to bring me back. So I show up and get "informed" that I am taking over gauge cal PO less than a week before an ORSE. Now having been a supervisor watch stander for a couple of years, I already knew the program was a mess. I tell my new chief that the I needed to see the books before anything else and I wanted to walk through the plant with the current gauge PO, who was one of the biggest pieces of shits in the Department but for some reason M-div chiefs loved. Not only were a lot gauges broken or out of cal, nor had the paper work been updated in over 6 years, but he was even missing, that's right missing, gauges to systems that include level one cleanliness requirements. We didn't even spend about 10 minutes in the box before I was so disgusted that I stormed immediately to the M-div office. I kicked opened the door and I basically yell to the chief "I wouldn't touch this with his dick (while pointing to my new useless LPO) let alone take over this mess". I lay out the extent of the problem to which he replies either I fix it or "we"(obviously meaning me) have problems. Now I got less than 6 months left, so my response is "WE don't have a problem...YOU have a clusterfuck on your hands and YOU are the one that is going to get fucked for the fact that YOU never did your job as a chief and actually supervised your people! What are you going to do, Mast my ass!" Which he yells back "Damn right!" Which left my $25000 question "For what? Refusal to commit fraud?!?!". This rather heated discussion continued until I informed him that I needed to converse with the RO about how one of his chiefs were demanding personnel to cover up his inability to perform his sole function which to ensure the safe and reliable operation of the propulsion plant. Naturally this immediately quiets him down and he begins his bullshit "Team player" and "Good Shipmate" speech, which results in me telling him either sends me to berthing or back to RXDC, otherwise I would do everything I could to inform the entire chain of command of the extent of this fucked up program. In the end, he put me in charge of berthing, as a way of buying my silence, and shoves Gauge Cal PO, again less than a week away from a major material readiness inspection, to a nearly NUB non-nuke mechanic so as to protect his buttboy from going to mast like he should have. Feeling bad that some new kid is getting stabbed with this, I ended up having to call in insane amounts of favors to help the non-nuke out to prevent this poor kid from going to mast (Let me tell you, "finding" steam plant gauges, fully calibrated, with six years worth of paperwork is extremely difficult at two in the morning). I was literally awake for the next five days helping this poor kid out but in the end, we took no hits for the inspection, non-nuke doesn't go to mast, and that utter piece of shit that ran the program for years into the ground?!?! Oh our chief got him a fucking NAM a few months later for his work as Gauge Cal PO. Our LPO later told me, not knowing how involved I was in preventing the non-nuke from going to mast, that he was hoping the kid(said non-nuke) would get sent up because he was a shitbag. Why was he a shitbag you ask? He didn't go on a 5 day deployment for a BS reason...and that reason our LPO and Chief thought was BS? A fucking hernia surgery. They (I can say they because the Chief and LPO thought with the same retarded inbred mind) wanted to screw a kid over because he had gotten hurt during his first few months on board. Actually in the Chief and LPO's defense, they wanted to protect their favorite rat in the division and decided to kill two birds with one stone by screwing over a non-nuke. When the LPO slipped this info to me, I asked "Hey man...ever wonder why nothing of yours is safe in berthing? I mean shit, your dirty socks get stolen"
Does it matter? They all suck..... Tuesday, 11 November 2008 - 11:36:21 |
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Feelings toward Navy: FTN Cursed... Just because you go to mast does not mean that you will end up with an OTH DD-214. While I was in tons of the guys that I worked with went to mast, and they got out just fine. If you look at the majority of the fucking chiefs, many of them too have red stripes instead of gold. Mast is not the end of your Navy career, nor is it the end of your civilian career. Of all of the companies I interviewed with none of them asked me about my type of discharge, they were just impressed by my military service. Do not let the fucks in the Navy convince you that if you fuck up there, your life is lost, that is far from the truth. Just get out, get a real job, and live a real life. The last time that you drive off that base is like a huge weight being lifted off of your shoulders.
Chucky-V Tuesday, 11 November 2008 - 11:12:53 |
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Feelings toward Navy: FTN! Well I never thought I would have a story of my own about bieng screwed by the navy......'til now! This is a story of the truth of the navy's hypocrocy! For anyone here who has or has had a technical rating in the navy, they know all about tag-out proceedures. Not the official proceedures, but the actual proceedure where you just fix the gear you're working on without taging out anything and then telling your supervisor the job is done and then leave it up to your chief to cover it all up for you then he takes the credit for the high productivity in your shop. Well at my command I was routinely getting counseling chits for either taking too long to do things or fu**ing things up when I was trying to hurry. It was either not taking the time to do it right the first time or taking the time to do it right but taking too long. Holy sh**! It's a lose-lose situation! However one thing my entire shop was "guilty" of was shutting off the circuit breakers to the gear we (as in my chief, lpo, wcs, and I) were working on without running through proper tag-out proceedures. Well I never tagged anything out because I think it's all bullsh** when someone would actually have to get through us to turn on the gear we're working on and my chief does it. Well one day I report to my chief that I almost got shocked but was ok. He then asked me if I tagged it out first. My first thougts were WTF!? and ARE YOU FU***G KIDDING ME!? This sorry bas***d is actually mad at me for doing something that he him sorry-ass-self, shouldn't be in the navy, jacka** for a chief has done routinely and lets my whole shop get away with as well, has done! If this wasn't enough, HE SENDS ME TO DRB! WTF! So it's cool with my chief if I don't tag anything out and he doesn't tag anything out except when you're one month from the end of your contract from active duty (like me) during the month of November from the hours of 1300 to 1400 on Monday nights......got it, lesson learned chief! When I bring this up at xoi, my chief denies it, my shop denies it, and looks like I get to take one for the so called team! When asked why I seem so distracted at work, I tell them of my sister being diagnosed with cancer and having to send money home to my unemployed father. Well I guess only a human would be weak enough to have concerns about such things at work because my xo didn't seem to give two shi*s about it! If that wasn't enough bullsh** to turn your monitor brown from viewing this, get this: Six of my shipmates decided to come to work drunk.....and then keep drinking through out the entire work day and got caught, denied it, tried to lie about it, and were separated from the navy for it. Seven months later, I'm preparing to deal with THE EXACT SAME FATE JUST FOR NOT RUNNING A FU***G TAG!! Oh did I mention this is the first time I've ever been to mast AFTER SIX YEARS OF HONORABLE SERVICE? Well farewell to my honorable discharge, hopefully I can still get a job to help out my father, and by the way,.....FTN!!!!
Assault Craft Unit 2 Sunday, 9 November 2008 - 11:39:20 |
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Feelings toward Navy: Like a bad sitcom Yeah the Navy sure does rule. Ha just kidding. Thank you for the college and money though I never did crap on my boat. What are they going to do? Fire me? I hate the job anyway. But back to my point. Has anyone ever had a good command? And is it me or are like 90% of the guys in the Navy gay. Navy girls are all slutty. I guess I should have thought about it what guy chooses to hang out around a boat full of men and what kind of girl chooses to hang out around a boat full of men. Oh well the new GI Bill rocks. It probably could have been great for me if I had not had to suffer never ending abuse. I guess they were right I did not come from desperate enough circumstances to really enjoy the Navy and I was an individual. Oh well guess I will have to get out and go to college for free after 4 years of sleeping and blowing off musters. Worst case scenario I'll spend 4 years slacking off and getting stoned then even if I fail I will come back in with a college degree then REALLY do nothing. The Navy sucks and is full of homos, wingnuts, religous freaks, kids angry at mom and dad, tools, DnD guys, hicks, angry minorities, neo-Nazis, freakish insecure wierdos hmm thats all I can think of right now but hopefully you can find someone to joke around with while at work. That is something that I never could do and I really regret it. I hated nearly my whole boat seeing as nobody had an ounce or personality or a sense of humor. But if you have any sort of common sense then you can easily navigate the Navy and make it to the top even if they try and hold you down. All those tools are some of the most brainwashed idiots ever. Its all like that movie Office Space only not funny. Also HAS ANYONE EVER HAD THAT MYSTERIOUS GOOD COMMAND???? I think its like Atlantis, its only a myth. Hahhaahah FTN FTN FTN! Thanks for the free college douchebags all the abuse I suffered from my "shipmates" has only made me stronger. I came into the Navy a bright slacker but after my Navy time I'll be able to go places and do things these losers will never be able to do. Maybe I will see you Mastercheifs greeting people at the NEX. Oh yeah and another gripe I love the created jobs. I mean why does the Navy seem to pride itself on just wasting manpower. Shouldnt you rest your men when you have downtime so they actually have moral or motivation or maybe extra energy when actual work comes up. Hell no run them into the ground. When you sit back and watch it you will realize how pointless it all is.
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Feelings toward Navy: 2 months left!!!! So i have 2 months left and about 3 weeks left on the cruise iam currently on and i got put on a working party while we were in port.You know the funny thing about working parties on a carrier is that the airwing always ends up getting tasked with all the shitty jobs.The boat guys dont do shit and that happens because the chiefs that are in charge of the whole thing are the phillipino supply chiefs and they make sure to fuck over anyone who is not Phillipino.Now i dont have problems with phillipinos because i have alot of friends and a wife that is half Phillipino but its obvious that their is some serious racist shit going on when it comes to the tasking of jobs.Not only were they being ridiculous with the work but one incident truly made me sick to my stomach.So this poor guy is carrying a huge bag of trash through the hanger bay where we were setting up for some gay reception.So he starts to lose his grip on the bag so he sets it down to regain his hold and when he picks it back up a little hole ripped in the bag and a small amount of trash fell out.I see this happening so i start heading over to help the guy out and before i could get to him this asshole Phillipino senior chiefs starts ripping into the guy bad.He tells him he needs to go back down to the galley level and around and up to hanger bay one! The guy doesnt say shit because he knows its not worth it so he just turns around but this fuckin chiefs follows him the whole way and is just shouting in his ear the entire time.This poor guy is probably just doing what he was told and this complete asshole is giving him a hard time for no reason.I mean why do some chiefs just feel the need to be a prick when they could handle situations so much better.Its just an abuse of power and its a serious reason that most people dont want to stay in the navy after their first 4 years.The way i see it is if you treat your people good they will work hard for you but i guess none of the chiefs have ever learned that basic concept.But anyway 2 months left of this bullshit and i will never have to put up with this shit again!
Squadron/CVN-76 Saturday, 1 November 2008 - 16:51:19 |
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Feelings toward Navy: Endentured Servitude 1) I was a Nuke MM, I tried to be positive in my own head to keep my sanity, but I have to agree, FTN. 2) Regardless of the situation, there was always an issue that fell into that, "Just another grain of sand on a beach of reasons." 3) Too many of the "management" treat their people like fuses, "run 'em hot, until they blow, then just can 'em." 4) I was taught, "You take care of the horse, it'll take care of you," and "Treat your comp'ny (guests in your house) like family, and your family like comp'ny." Too few people still think like my country parents taught me. While I was in, I thought about this during the frquent slavery-type conditions, and took the horse thing a step further. A cowboy in the old west without a horse, was just a simple townsfolk. A submarine without a crew, ... is a fuckin' museum! The injustice between the tiers of rank in the Canoe Club is basically racism. 5) In closing, I wish you all well, you know, not R&R, we gave that BS to the Air Force, I mean I&I --- Intercourse & Intoxication!
USS-740 Thursday, 30 October 2008 - 01:46:27 |
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Feelings toward Navy: frustrated I joined the navy with good intentions I work hard I've been in 3 years and I hurt my knee on the ship through repeated impacts I started by telling my Leading Petty Officer I was in some pain and he tried to keep it in mind when I was tasked with some duties however I always made sure to pull my weight.
One day my chief found out that I had physical limitations and was not on Light Limited Duty. He was right if you have limitations you should have a chit that says it in writing according to navy rules. So I got one as he requested. (by the way there is a difference between how things work on paper and in real life as you can see)
It turns out that my LLD chit was MORE limiting than it needed to be and even said I wasn't able to go up and down stairs (I'm on a fucking ship its impossible to not use stairs) so of course I am now violating my LLD chit and therefore not looking out for my own best interests.
I have been in physical agony for 3 months going to medical for help every week sometimes two or three times a week now as the pain in my knee got worse and worse and medical does nothing. I've been begging to see a specialist to have surgery to remove the scar tissue in my knee. The navy doctor who is the only person in medical with a brain. Agreed that is the best method for me and now I'm on a 2 month waiting list to see a specialist the closest specialist the navy could assign me requires 4 hours of driving/ferry round trip costs me money and probably won't do anything for me since he works for the Naval Hospital.
Bottom line is this; I enlisted, I worked my ass off for 3 years and worked through pain and injury and all the garbage enlisted people complain about. I pay money every month for tricare "health insurance" then when I get a real injury that requires medical attention it takes 5 months to even get taken seriously.
Carrier Thursday, 30 October 2008 - 00:02:40 |
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Feelings toward Navy: FTN all the way I gotta question the leadership abilaties of The Chief if his first comment is belittling people by calling them sissies and comparing them to a pissed off ex girlfriend. Just sign off the computer refill your coffee cup and stab some more of your people to clean the head that got cleaned 15 minutes ago. Blue shirts run your life most khaki have no fucking clue how their division operates that's why they stayed in an organization that education and prior work experience mean next to nothing when it comes to pay.
If most chiefs would just give their people a fucking break maybe their fucking morale and retention would go up and they would get something useful done. If not its not like you lost any productive time because that head will be dirty again in 15 minutes by your fucked up standards.
Some chiefs don't micromanage their people and I definitely should apologize for grouping you with the other retarded useless pricks that don't even know who they are in charge of.
Wednesday, 29 October 2008 - 23:04:43 |
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Feelings toward Navy: clarification...... to Snake: lol, no, no, no, i didnt get out for being gay, I am strictly dickly...LMAO thats just a figure of speech I use. Yes I did get out with an OTH, but for popping on a piss test(X pill)June 08 is when i got out, what a shame, one more year to go....
USS Rushmore aka RUSTmore Friday, 24 October 2008 - 09:50:38 |
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dallasgurl04, just curious did you get an "other than honorable" discharge?
My first year in I thought about pretending to be gay just so i could get kicked out. Then someone tried exactly that and just ended up getting the old 45/45 half month's pay x2 and reduction in rank.
Shitty Kitty Thursday, 23 October 2008 - 08:06:34 |
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Feelings toward Navy: couldn't stand the crap..... Ok I did 3 yrs or whatever because of some not so good circumstances, so i got out a yr early(gay) anyways, I was actually not that upset with leaving the navy because of all the BS that comes along with it...Its like people do not realize that just because there is 'free housing' 'free food' 'clothing allowance' 'get to travel' 'steady paycheck on the 1st and 15th' that it is the life..NO!!!!!! sorry its not. There is WAAAYYYYYYYYYY too much BS that comes along with it. I came in undes(terrible) but then again not really because i got shore duty my 1st 2 yrs(now thats whats up)Its when I went to 'A' school after my first 2 yrs( back to Great Mistakes) when I REALLY realized and when I went to the boat that the Navy could really just suck a big fat one...I came in knwoing that I wasn't gonna re-enlist or anything, but still; I didnt wanna come in and despise the navy...And its not the NAVY itself, its the people. But ppl make the world go round, as well as the navy....Ppl talk to you crazy because they know they can, cuz they out rank you and whatnot. Please, Please, Please, lets be out in the civilian world(where I'm at now) and you talk to me like you stupid...its gone be some furniture moving!!!!!! But anyways, I had to agree with ScrewU, I hope i filled in some of the complaints that you forgot...There is so many but I dont have allday, lol...
FTN, BABY!!!!!!!!
USS Rushmore aka RUSTmore AKA GAYmore Wednesday, 22 October 2008 - 13:10:54 |
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I think "The Chief" is the same poster as "Chief Best".
Im sure everyone whos been on this site long enough remembers Chief Best....who turned out to be a hoax as he proved he didn't understand basic navy lingo that someone in boot would know.
For those who dont know.....some people just like to go on forums and start arguments just to waste people's time. Its called "trolling" and the people who do so are called trolls. (i've seen a lot of this as i've been using the internet since 14.4k modems were standard).
Anyways I agree with what another poster said on here that the navy has the POTENTIAL to be an awesome job...you get to travel the world etc. If you took away the pointless watches, meaningless tasks, lifers that spend their spare time trying to bust people, being treated like a child, cerfews, etc. it would be a good job....but thats most of the navy right there.
Shitty Kitty Sunday, 19 October 2008 - 04:27:54 |
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Feelings toward Navy: Living in Backwards Land Yeah the Navy is pretty cool, to bad the people who stay in are douche nozzels. They completly ruin what could be a great job. I mean the Navy itself is actually a great system, really really easy but all the lifers are total assholes who get off on hazing people and making people miserable. Being underway sucks bad enough but when all the guys are such repressed homos they cant even chill out and just watch a movie and relax the Navy gets old fast. That and the completly inability for anyone to do their job sucks. Or the over achievers and the all important extra duties. Most are total BS. Or sometimes the Navy acts like it is a 9-5 job when your workload is light but then all the sudden when things pick up your work load increases you hear "this is the Navy its not a 9 to 5 job". What the hell when we had only 2 hours of work a day it was a 9-5 job and we sat around for 7 hours a day making up BS work but now when the work picks up its long hours and duty its not. That and when you do go to a ship you really dont have a clue whats going on so unless you have a good chain of command you will probably get screwed over and beaten down so much that by the time you figure out the Navy you will have such a sour taste in your mouth that you will have no desire to stay in or you'll simply stop caring. Oh and the complete lack of respect for one another is something else that bothers me. That and 19 year 1st and 2nd classes who thrive off messing up other peoples lives because they are failures. Probably more things to list but I cant think of any right now.
Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 21:22:18 |
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Feelings toward Navy: gggaaaayyyyyyyyy The navy is ssssoooooooo freaking gay...like literally.Probably 1 of 8 is gay or bi..lol But anyways, the navy was only good to let me see how people can treat you..the friends I made was the best part...countries i would never go if i hadn't of joined....but other than that, the navy can Kick rocks!!!!!!
3 yrs....
USS Rushmore aka RUSTmore Thursday, 16 October 2008 - 14:15:10 |
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